Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, striving to define his Democratic challenger before voters make up their minds, posted a campaign video suggesting that rival Beto O’Rourke gave public thanks for people who trample or burn the American flag.
We confirmed that O’Rourke, who represents El Paso in the U.S. House, recently fielded a question from a crowd member asking about his position on flag desecration. But O’Rourke’s reply didn’t directly take that up; instead, O’Rourke revisited his support of nonviolent protests for civil rights and against police misbehavior.
Let’s cover Cruz’s claim, then turn to the question posed to O’Rourke and what O’Rourke said.
The 25-second video by Cruz’s campaign opens by showing O’Rourke standing with a microphone in front of Texas and U.S. flags as an audience member is heard saying that “the reason I ask this question is as a voter, I don’t know how I would feel to have my own elected representative being open to kneeling on the Senate floor or encouraging and supporting acts that desecrate our American flag.”
Next, the video goes silent as text appears: “Beto O’Rourke was asked his views on burning or desecrating the American flag. This was his answer.” Then the video shows O’Rourke saying: “I think there is something inherently American about that. And so I’m grateful that people are willing to do that.”
We watched the full Facebook Live video of the exchange at a town hall in El Paso and concluded that the Cruz campaign version was heavily edited and distorted O’Rourke’s answer.
Here’s the full question O’Rourke was asked: “My question is with regards to your remark that there is nothing more patriotic than for NFL players, when discussing NFL players kneeling during the national anthem. And I’m curious as to know if you hold the landmark Texas Supreme Court case — well, the Supreme Court case Texas versus Johnson — to that same standard, where a man was charged for burning and desecrating an American flag on the state Capitol. And do you disagree with the dissenting opinion that the American flag is a unifying symbol that should be respected and revered, as it plays no politics? And I guess the reason I ask this question is, as a voter, I don’t know how I would feel to have my own elected representative being open to kneeling on the Senate floor or encouraging and supporting acts that desecrate our American flag.”
And here is O’Rourke’s full reply: “My comments about there being nothing more American were about being — there’s nothing more American than standing up for, or in this case kneeling for, your rights under the Constitution. When the women and men who are serving in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Syria tonight, the gentleman who served in Vietnam — when they serve this country, they’re not serving a president, they’re not serving a political party. They swear their allegiance to the Constitution. This idea that we are a country of laws and that no woman and no man is above or below those laws.
“When some people are treated differently because of their race — and we’re reminded of the fact that it is not just in the distant past. For someone born in 1972 such as I, that might be the Freedom Riders in the 1960s who rode those Greyhound buses through Mississippi and Alabama and Georgia, and in so doing as African-American women and men, took their lives into their hands, put them on the line. And in many cases those who stood up for civil rights lose their lives in the process. Many were beaten to within an inch of their lives to ensure better civil rights for every single American.
“They got us a lot closer than we were before. Witness the Voting Rights Act from 53 years, the Civil Rights Act from 54 years ago. Those would not have been signed into law by Lyndon Baines Johnson if people had not protested, if Rosa Parks had not moved from the back of the bus to the front of the bus. If our young fellow Americans of different colors did not have the audacity and the boldness and the courage to sit at lunch counters knowing that they would be humiliated, knowing that they would be spat upon, knowing that they would be dragged out in front of their fellow human beings. They did all of that to stand up for the equal treatment under law of everyone.
“Now, part of the genius of this country, and I think no one expresses it more brilliantly than Martin Luther King Jr., is that in the face of injustice, in the face sometimes of violence, in the face of the very real possibility that you will lose your life in the process, people have been willing to nonviolently and peacefully protest to seek political solutions to otherwise intractable problems.
“When you have unarmed black men in this country all too often being killed, and sometimes being killed by members of law enforcement — and those members of law enforcement — as I see a former chief of police for the El Paso Police Department, a former county commissioner, someone who exemplifies the best in public service — those are among the very toughest jobs that anyone in any community can hold. Those are also people who put their lives on the line, securing and protecting their fellow citizens in these communities.
“But when there is use of force, when there is a life taken and there is not accountability, there is not justice done, there’s not the ability to prevent that from continuing to happen in the future, and someone is willing to call attention to that, to try to awaken our conscience, to force us to do the right thing, in the face of that injustice and violence and to do so peacefully and nonviolently — I think that there is something inherently American about that. And so I’m grateful that people are willing to do that. I understand that people can come down to a different conclusion on this issue, and I respect that, as well. That’s American as well. But those are my feelings on the issue, and I’m grateful for the question.”
We asked O’Rourke’s campaign whether he had aired a more direct answer on flag burning. The campaign pointed out a Sept. 4 Corpus Christi Caller-Times news story quoting O’Rourke after an Aug. 27 event in Austin: “I don’t think anyone should burn an American flag. I also don’t think this is about flags. It’s about people’s lives. It’s about civil rights. It’s about making sure that everyone has an opportunity to succeed and that there is justice and accountability for everyone in this country.”
Cruz said that O’Rourke said he’s grateful that people are burning or desecrating the American flag.
Cruz’s video distorts O’Rourke’s answer when asked to speak to a Supreme Court ruling that upheld the right to desecrate the flag in nonviolent protest. O’Rourke didn’t even address flag burning in his answer, instead focusing on his support of protests for civil rights and other causes. O’Rourke earlier said he didn’t think anyone should burn an American flag.
We rate Cruz’s claim False.
Statement: Says Beto O’Rourke said he’s grateful that people are burning or desecrating the American flag.